That is the sort of food that you know how to cook. Why then do Muslims consume non-vegetarian food? It's going to destroy the whole planet. Buddha in th… There can be no doubt about it. The Buddha doesn't take responsibility away from you; it is up to each individual. And they're vegetarians. I have already told you that Islam is very logical religion. Does Buddhism then encourage the eating of meat? A lot of these rules have to do with food; there are rules about all sorts of things pertaining to food, some of them very unusual. Perhaps some beings get killed, but it's not our intention to kill them. He ate whatever he could get. Meat also contains iron, vitamin B1 and niacin. If you don't wear leather shoes, you wear plastic shoes. [Source: Dowson's Classical Dictionary of Hindu Mythology] `The terrible.' Perhaps very little, but according to the relationship of interdependence, everything you do affects everything else. You can't escape it. The alleged humane forms of slaughter are no less violent or cruel. The Buddha was most certainly a vegetarian. And Bhishma, by virtue of being a kshatriya is more likely to be a non-vegetarian. It is a small thing, but noble, and very much in keeping with the Buddha's teaching of compassion and understanding. Milk and milk products are vital in the traditional food habits of India. There are many similar instances both in the Rules of Discipline and in the Discourses. You may think, "What can I do to affect the movement of the planets and the galaxies?" Once we realize that how we live has its consequences, what effect will this have on how we live and how we regard what we are doing? In essence the texts are a very true and accurate record of what the Buddha taught. Brought up as a boy, Shikhandi also fought in the war of Mahabharata on the sides of the Pandavas. If we are in a position to explain, we explain it to others according to reason and logic, not by being critical of them for not being vegetarian. There is a big difference between the two, however, because the killing of animals refers to intentionally depriving an animal of life or intentionally causing or directly telling somebody else to kill an animal. My own faith says, He was a vegetarian, and even if He were not, I'd still remain His vegetarian devotee, BUT the verse above is SO NOT a proof of His being vegetarian. When the Buddha heard a charge that Buddhist monks caused the killing of animals by eating meat, he stated that this was not so. If you drove your car here this evening, I'm sure that you killed something—on your windscreen there would have been a few smashed insects. The Theosophical Society in America is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program. The basis of vegetarianism for most Buddhists is ethical. Each person has to walk at his or her own pace. The Buddha laid down this rule, to refrain from intentionally killing any living creature, as the first step towards respecting life, both human and animal. We make our choice out of compassion. You can really stuff yourself and not break a rule. While Pythagoras was an early proponent of a meatless diet, humans have been vegetarians since well before recorded history. The chairs are on the carpet: where does the carpet come from? It is a personal thing. For protein, they had to survive, they had to have food, and it's very hard to get food. Every person sitting here is part of the system, the whole universe. Originally named as 'Devavrata', he was the eighth son of the Kuru King Shantanu and the river goddess Ganga. Sitemap. Vegetarianism, the theory or practice of living solely upon vegetables, fruits, grains, legumes, and nuts, with or without the addition of milk products and eggs. Historically, right up to the present day, Buddhist people in general haven't been strictly vegetarian. He laid down rules that people had a good likelihood of keeping. In the Mahabharata, Bhishma (Sanskrit: भीष्म, IAST: Bhīṣma) also known as Bhishma Pitamaha and Gangaputra Bhishma was well known for his pledge of celibacy. Well, most people are ignorant; most people have limited scope in their overall understanding of options and possibilities; most people live according to their conditioning. Mahabharata says that the Pandavas were voracious … Therefore supporting an industry that causes cruelty and death to millions of animals would be hypocritical. There have been some changes, some additions, and some alterations through the ages, but the essence is there. Citation: Cianciosi, John. Most of the food we get is vegetarian, but not all. We have nice vegetables, but for them to be nice vegetables you've got to do something about the insects. There are many volumes: the Vinaya Pitaka, the discipline for monks and nuns; the Suttanta Pitaka, which contains the discourses or teachings given by the Buddha; and finally the Abhidhamma Pitaka, which is the system of philosophy and psychology developed from the basic texts. Many times there seems to be some confusion or lack of clarity on whether the Vedic path condones or condemns the eating of meat. The very first precept for a lay Buddhist is: Panatipata veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami. It's always more, with little or no emphasis on contentment. Home. I have an American student who complains because there is such a limited range of food here in Australia. But, I personally believe that it is an act of the most enlightened Buddhist to not support an industry of death. Vegetarianism is just one aspect of the whole picture. This is a training for every Buddhist monk, nun, novice, postulant, layman, and laywoman, which is absolutely fundamental to the training in harmlessness. This would seem to support the conclusion drawn from an examination of the scriptures—that it has never been a prerequisite for people who want to be Buddhists to be vegetarian. So I can be accused of contributing. A view is the way we see something, the way we understand something, our preference with regard to the variety of choices available in regard to things. ( Log Out / The Buddha had a pragmatic approach to things, so he said to at least start at this level. This is in the Anushasana Parva section where there is a conversation between Yudhisthira and Grandfather Bhishma about the merits of abstaining from meat eating and the demerits and consequences for doing so. I don't know from personal experience; if I was there, I don't remember it. Bhishma Ashtami 2019 Date. In another episode, Bhishma explains the function of Shiva as one who … He then declared three conditions under which monks were not to eat meat: if they have seen, heard, or suspect that the animal was killed specifically to feed them, then the monks should refuse to accept that food. There's no need for people to do special preparation for Buddha. It is clear from old texts that animals were sacrificed and their meat eaten. Why did people in more basic, rural societies, such as in northern Thailand where I lived, where most of the people were Buddhist, eat meat? The scriptures mention Hindu sages and saints consuming non-vegetarian food. So when most people who are not vegetarians eat meat, it is not because they want to kill animals. There is another rule, based on this story: a monk was ill, and as he was quite sick a devout female disciple asked him if he had ever had this illness before and what he had taken to cure it. You might say it's ignorance. Because of the fundamental drive to survive, he would eat whatever he could get. If you'll bear with me, I would like to present to you some of this historical evidence. Quite to the contrary, one does find a number of instances where the Buddha speaks about food, especially in the rules pertaining to the monks, indicating that, during the time of the Buddha, the monks did sometimes eat meat. Over the centuries it began to fragment into various schools. They are regarded as some of the greatest minds, artists, and activists in human history. That's all we see—black and white—and that is a great shame. But first, you have to realize that there are 4 main types of whiskey that you can get most commonly. Having made such a choice, don't pollute it with aversion for those who are not vegetarian. I think the scriptures are accurate. That is not killing—there is death but you are not creating the karma of killing animals. Vegetarianism is one such topic. If their intention in eating is to kill more cows, that would be very close to killing. No. It doesn't have to be that way, but that is how it is for most people. Our intention when we cook and eat meat is not to kill animals—I don't think anyone has that intention—however the fact remains that by the acts of buying, cooking, and eating, we indirectly support the killing of the animal. They operate at different levels. The monks are supposed to be mendicants, and he laid down a lot of rules about eating for monks—they are allowed to eat only in the morning, when they eat they are not supposed to make chomping or slurping sounds, they are not supposed to drop grains of rice, they are not supposed to scrape the bowl, they are not supposed to look around—yet he didn't make one rule about overeating. Answer: ‘Vegetarianism- is now a movement the world over. It contains biologically complete protein i.e. Would shooting a human in the head be humane in any sense? As I said, the training for a monk is to accept what one is given and not to ask for anything special. Nearly all of us in Western society are suffering from it. It already is consuming the world at an alarming rate. It is something you take responsibility for and train yourself toward gradually, but it is not a rule to start with. I respect people who are vegetarian. Forsooth, O son, flesh has its origin in the vital seed. There's a lot to be done in every area of life, in the way we speak, in the way we act, in everything. So we have to rely on scriptures that have been handed down through the centuries. By Stephen Knapp . This would seem to support the conclusion drawn from an examination of the … They think it is against their religion to consume non-vegetarian food. They are so similar that they must have originally come from the same source. Re: Was Bhima a Vegetarian. As for Mahayana Buddhists, the embracement of vegetarianism is an expression of ultimate compassion. What did a caveman eat? Food is about the body.” Whatever we do has its consequences. I think that the Buddha did not make it a prerequisite for people, nor do I think that it was laid down as a rule of training for monks. This fact gives us the opportunity to reduce the suffering of millions of animals. And thus, Bhishma has gotten it all wrong. – Harry Feb 14 '18 at 0:52. add a comment | 1. We've only got three kinds of this type of chocolate, she says, whereas in America they have twenty kinds. I confess, my hands are not clean. They are acting very nobly; it is a gesture of renunciation. I would say wholeheartedly that it is compatible. BHISHMA. The first mandate of Buddhism is to not kill any living being. We cannot continue to consume more and more, demand more and more, want more and more of everything, and expect that this limited planet with its limited resources can supply it for us. How would you feel if the day you were born somebody else has already planned the day of your execution? Vegetarian; Non Vegetarian; Snacks; Salads; Pickles; COUPONS. The Buddha was an enlightened being, and he wanted people to become enlightened, to become responsible. There are about a dozen different types of meat specified by the Buddha that are not allowed for monks. If the Buddha had made vegetarianism a prerequisite, it would have to be somewhere in the scriptures. Many even associate it with animal rights. This is much more important than just vegetarianism. How do those vegetable gardens get to be so free of trees and bushes? In the earliest recording of his teachings, the Tripitaka, the Buddha did not categorically forbid his disciples to eat meat.In fact, if meat were put into a monk's alms bowl, the monk was supposed to eat it. It's true. If the monks had to be vegetarian, then these rules would seem to be completely useless or irrelevant. It is unlikely the historical Buddha was a vegetarian. Change ), I like working out and reading ... stuff like that. In the Theravada tradition we have what we call the Pali Canon, the Buddhist scriptures. They eat meat because that is what they are conditioned to eat. In any case, this is the evidence we have to deal with, because there is no one here who can say, "I heard the Buddha say differently." Are your hands clean? What are the consequences? He also served as mentor for the Buddhist Society of Western Australia. So why is it okay to kill animals? Compassion means feeling with, feeling for, being sensitive to the pain of others. ( Log Out / It depends on what is available. Let's begin with a fundamental question: Is it a prerequisite for a Buddhist to be a vegetarian according to the teachings of the Buddha? But they didn't have a computer on which they could just punch in "reference to meat" and get a whole list. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. If you can't see it as a whole, you can certainly see it in this room. There is a big difference between eating meat and killing animals, although it can be argued that when we eat meat we indirectly support the killing of animals. Former vegetarians and those whose status is disputed are not included on this list.. From there, everything else will come about in accordance with the individual's response and sense of personal responsibility. When people eat meat, what is their intention? The following Qur’anic verses are proof of this fact: There appears to be an inconsistency; it doesn't seem to add up, but this is simply due to not thinking clearly about the topic. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Some of these schools flourished in different parts of India and more distant locations, and so had very little or no contact with each other. Instagram name: itsall_inthemind. Namaste Markandeya, Yes, I remember reading in the Mahabharatha of Krishna highlighting the psychological state of Bhima as he seems to have ceased relishing dishes of meat and spending much time in deep thought , due to his anger over the Kauravas as the diplomatic negotiations to get their kingdom back was not becoming fruitful, and war seemed … Son of King Santanu by the holy river goddess Ganga, and hence called Santanava, Gangeya, and Nadija, `the river-born.'. There are many Hindus who are strictly vegetarian. It is up to the individual, through the teaching, to become more compassionate and wise, to take responsibility for one's life. 15 - 21. His main concern would be to set a fundamental standard, but even that would be voluntary. It's all interrelated. The goodness generated by such a choice then becomes corrupted, and in some ways you will be worse than nonvegetarians. In 1982, he helped found the Bodhiyana Forest Monastery in Serpentine, Western Australia, and led a community of monks and nuns. For instance, there is one rule which forbids monks from eating the meat of certain types of animals, such as horse, elephant, dog, snake, tiger, leopard, and bear. edited by Bhishma Bhusal. The whole is much greater because it deals with how much we consume, even of fruit and vegetables, clothing, shoes, power, air, fuel, everything—because all consumption brings about destruction. Most animals live on grains and other resource-intensive products. That's ridiculous! Vegetarianism is a very beneficial practice for one who is developing two qualities that every Buddhist should be trying to develop: compassion and wisdom. Everything we do has its long-range effect on everything else. Hindu vegetarians usually eschew eggs but consume milk and dairy products, so they are lacto-vegetarians. Most Read: Purnima Days In The Year 2019 He is the author of The Meditative Path (Quest Books) and presently serves on the Olcott staff. They argue that the Buddha did teach vegetarianism, but those monks who wanted to eat meat went and changed every reference to it in all the texts. You will be surprised to know that Bhishma says in Mahabharata Santi Parva Section CCXXII, ‘ By never eating animals not killed for sacrifice, he will become a strict vegetarian.’ So according to Bhishma you can be a strict vegetarian if you restrict your non-veg food to sanctified meat - something that would certainly surprise modern Hindu vegetarians. So here is another strange rule that would be completely pointless if there had been a stipulation that the monks never eat meat. We get into a car to go from A to B for a purpose. It's not just a matter of vegetarianism. Qur’an permits Muslims to have non-vegetarian food The Qur’an, however permits a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food. Buddha told his father that it's tradition for Buddha to get meal by asking from people just like a beggar (there's no special intention or offense by writing beggar.). Once when I gave a talk on Buddhism and vegetarianism, there were some very strong reactions from some members of the audience. There may have been accidental alterations, but I do not think that the texts were corrupted intentionally, certainly not in any serious or major way. We live in a world where we do not have to fight for our survival (we can survive just as well eating fruits and vegetables). The Buddha was pointing to a very fundamental principle: craving is the source of the problem and it can never be satisfied by feeding it. Vegetarianism is a matter of individual choice and responsibility, not something that can be forced, but it is certainly praiseworthy and compatible with the Buddha's teaching. This is consumerism, where the word is "more, more, more." Home. Of course this had to be a personal judgment. You are sitting on chairs; where do they come from? That is part of the conditioning of the Australian culture. But, because he is a ‘progressive’ it is likely he is not a vegetarian. It is then up to you whether you follow it or not. But don't stop there. The first precept in Buddhism is usually translated as "I undertake the precept to refrain from taking life." Twenty kinds of chocolate, 120 kinds of ice cream to choose from—a marvelous achievement for the human race, the apex of human civilization. Within this reality we all can and should consider carefully what we are doing, how we are living, and what we are consuming. Out of great devotion this lady decided that the monk could not be left to suffer, so she cut a piece of her own flesh and made a meat broth. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. It doesn't mean starving yourself, it's just a matter of being contented, of not being continually caught in the obsession to get more, which is basically the present-day consumer society syndrome, isn't it? Residence on Georgian Plantation (1863) 251) 1842: "To tell a healthy vegetarian that his … There is intention, there is purpose, and there is the actualization of that purpose in killing. These chapters is highlighting the topic of Ahimsa (non killing). If they could keep to that level, things would be a lot better. Mahayanists often adopt vegetarianism (as do Hindus) as a practice of purification. The Buddha warned against attachment to views and opinions as one of the fundamental causes of suffering. all the 8 essential amino acid that are not synthesized by the body and should be supplied in the diet. Nowadays we are beginning to understand this. In a word. We see this over and over again in every aspect of life. Amazon; Medlife; Lenskart; Flipkart; 1mg; Healthkart; The Body Shop; MORE : NEWS ; HOME REMEDIES ; SPIRITUALITY ; RELATIONSHIP; HOME & GARDEN; WOMEN ; LGBTQ; For Quick Alerts Subscribe Now Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy: Symptoms, Causes, Treatment And Prevention View Sample. It cannot be right for us to kill animals for food when we are capable of attaining a healthy diet through other means. And a lot of us have the wealth to live a vegetarian lifestyle. They ate frogs, grasshoppers, red ants, ant larvae—all sorts of things. "Was the Buddha a Vegetarian?" 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